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I applaud your knowledge and understanding on how the system works, we have governments that reward young adults to have children, and yes i agree why shouldnt you be entitled to some help, We are currently doing a circle of life, we are finding it hard like our mothers and their mothers no longer the lucky country, we all need to learn to stop waste and help one another. Make Governments and Councils responsible for why your not entitled to help. I dont want to get into politics but make your polititions accountable for everything.

you got me emotinal with your post.  I have food stamps thank the loard and medical for my babies but it is humiliating to even admit it. i am going to school to further my education to get out of the system it is embarrassing they kno weverthing about you and need to know  they are so into my life and i hate it and want to be done with it but i need it i barely survive with that . jumping through hoops for $200.00 in food stamps for me and my two babies.  everyday is a strugle and damned if i dont wish it could be over.  i will always put my babies first and have and will go out for my babies.  havnt gotten a new pair of shoes in years that have holes but my kids will get shoes when they need them.  it is a hard life to live poor its embarassing and so stressfull. putting on a fake smile for your children when inside your dieing. working so hard and still having nothing.. begging for more hours wishing i had the childcare to get a secound job thinking maybe than i could get a home for my children. maybe than i would have something more for them...  my heart aches and i get depressed, but i continue to go on for my boys because i have to for them they keep me going, even if they dont listen or break everything, or back talk ect. one of my kids hasspecial needs major behavioral problems for example he is four and got sent home for cutting his teacher and than through a big tantrum enraged.   oh my im so sorry for going on like this i guess i needed to vent sorry.

Thank you for understanding and relating to my frustration.  Things have gotten both better and worse..lol I found a higher paying job but, it only pays once a month so I wont see a paycheck for a long time.  I had to pawn the jewelry I inherited from my mother to pay rent.  Once again rent is due and I don't have it and I have nothing left to sell or pawn. So, again I am back in the same boat as before with no where to turn for help.  I think its ironic that irresponsible people that contribute nothing to society can receive assistance but, the hard working, tax paying, responsible citizens are left out in the cold.  It just doesn't seem right, makes me want to move to Canada or France where every person is treated equal and all get the same benefits no matter their status in life.  I love this country don't get me wrong, but in general America does not take very good care of it citizens.  Okay...lol  getting off my soapbox now!  :)  Thanks again for your comments.

And,yes people without children don't have to have childcare to go get a job,but they do not have the joy of hearing the pitter patter of little feet. They have no one to tell them: "mommie, I love you". They do not have a child to bring them a glass of water or anything if they are sick. They have no child to fill the void in their lives

I appreciate your comments but for the record, I have no void in my life without having children.  Not every woman was meant to be a mother :)  I am happy with my furry four legged children and have no voids or regrets in my decision not to breed...lol

I get you I did not always have 6 kids so i understand where you coming from they suggested i have kids also and i just had to work harder take any job i could I don't know how but i prayed in church only had 75cents gave it as an offering asked God for a job and belived in faith and trusted him about 2weeks later i was just going from bplace to place seeing if there was work available and in one day i got 2 jobs 7.50 an hour this was good pay in 1997 so i worked until i started my family and trusted  my lying unstable unfaithful baby daddy(s)/ husband I should of stayed single and working but not having kids I know what to Trust in your self and a Higher power

TO almost underwater - I say: Be GRATEFUL!You do not have to fight for child support. You do not have to worry about keeping children fed, clothed, healthy, sheltered and warm.

 I am :)  I feel for these mothers, I respect the woman who fight the good fight.  I dont respect the others and thats who I was venting about.  Thanks for your comments, well said!

I have to agree with almost underwater... She has a very valid point.. WHERE ARE ALL THE RESOURCES for the responsible people - the people who slip through the cracks? The ones who just don't qualify?

TO almost underwater - I say: Be GRATEFUL!You do not have to fight for child support. You do not have to worry about keeping children fed, clothed, healthy, sheltered and warm.

While there is a TON of help, it is a fulltime job being poor. It takes every ounce of energy you have to just get by and even then you are always a day late and a dollar short. While there are some who do manage to make a good living off of the government and social services there are those who struggle just to make it through the day. They fall into bed exhausted and wonder when it will ever end. They have totry and explain to their kids why there isn't enough food, no trips, no after school activities, no cable tv, - why they don't have the things their friends have.

For the kids, its humiliating to try and fit in. They don't have what their friends have - not even close. They can't have friends come over because where would they play? What would they play with? If they are living with an addicted parent, it is the child who takes on the role of the parent. Struggling to feed younger siblings with whatever is available. Bathing, dressing, and getting them ready for bed or school. Watching them because mom or dad is too high or passed out to notice or care. Those are the lucky ones.

The unlucky ones have to worry about if they will be beaten or abused on a daily basis. Or, will it be a younger sibling? Will mom/dad come home with someone new who will abuse them too? They live in constant fear or what may happen. And that is no childhood.

So, while I do empathize with you, I do see those who abuse the system. I also see the results of those the system refuses to acknowledge. WE all know the system is broken, beyond repair. We are supposed to be the richest, most powerful country in the world - and yet when it comes to our biggest resource - people - they are our least concern and our most expendable. 

I'm curious. What are ALL the resources that are available to people who don't have children? Or,should I say what are ANY resources that are available to people who don't have children?

 And,yes people without children don't have to have childcare to go get a job,but they do not have the joy of hearing the pitter patter of little feet. They have no one to tell them: "mommie, I love you". They do not have a child to bring them a glass of water or anything if they are sick. They have no child to fill the void in their lives.

Its true in many states. A person with children can get many benefits while the one who does not have kids cannot. A woman who is single & hungry in many places cannot get food stamps.

If a person is hungry, benefits should be 'fair' across the board.

I am not putting single mothers down by no means. I don't think just because one woman has kids & another does not does not mean one is more special than the other.  And vice versa. If a person is in 'need' they are just in need.

In response to jadder's comments:

I am not down on single mothers, had you read what I wrote you would have seen that I clearly said I know many responsible single mothers.  I am "down" on the single mothers that abuse the system.  You're right, I don't have a child to care for and I did "get a job". However the job does not start for several weeks and I am flat broke.  I wasn't asking for much, just something so I wouldn't be homeless.  I got nothing but a cold shoulder.  I was told about all the services I would be able to receive if I had a child.  I apologize once again if I have offended you (which clearly I have) but, you do not sound like the people I was describing.  You sound like you are responsible and have a job and do not make a living having child after child and expecting my tax dollars to pay for it. You can tell me I am wrong till you are blue in the face but I dare you to go in your local welfare office and take a good look around.  I am well within my rights to vent a little frustration on a system that is clearly broken.

For the record, I have friends that are single mothers and I respect them for all that they do. Its the woman that have child after child and absolutely no means to take care of that child (other then public assistance) that I was venting about.  Finding a job in this economy is difficult and almost everyone is struggling, it just makes me so mad to see people abuse an already broken system and take and take and leave deserving people out in the cold.

Don't be down on single moms !!!... I have 2 children and until 3 years ago was happily married !!!... I went on the system for abouy 6 months, but then i  started falling thru the cracks... Other than help with food, I recieve no other assistance- I don't 'qualify' because I make $25 Too much, and if I did qualify, they would take the money that I am recieving from child support !!!... i don't know what state you live in, but with these hard times, people who don't have children have ALL these resorces available to them, not to mention the fact that you don't have to have child care to GO GET A JOB !!!